When there’s a mass shooting incident involving ‘weapons of mass destruction’, we listen to “Thoughts and prayers”, and “this isn’t the time for a political discussion”, or “unimaginable tragedy.”
The madness must be stopped. All degrees of madness and especially concerning firearms. Gun owners, ex-military, manufacturers and the like should lead the campaign for sane regulation. PLEASE!
No, it hasn’t. They need to be abolished. The NRA of today is like the Republican Party . It has changed drastically since the 70s when I used to be a member. Now, it’s as radicalized as the Republican Party!
Include high cost insurance for assault with a deadly weapon and wrongful death specifying the family as beneficiaries.
And vote out every politician who's offered "thoughts and prayers" and said "now is not the time for politics." Yeah, it is the right time for politics.
You have that so correct, Carol! We need to make sure we get every Democrat registered to vote to the polls. Every politician that has nothing more than “thoughts and prayers”, or comes off with “now isn’t the time for talking politics” has got to go. It will take not only this ejection this November but every election between now and 2030. This Trumpublican GOP Party has got to go. Every last one of them.
Prosecuting the parents for mass murder is clearly a great step forward. Lowering the price of gun safes and better education about gun safety will all help. Mandatory police interviews for under 21 year olds owning or purchasing weapons will also help. In the US no bans on weapons will ever be electorally popular.
I understand what you are saying. But, if I may. I’m questioning a child under 21 owning a firearm. I’m questioning the reasoning behind the banning of manufacturing semiautomatic weapons.
If they don’t wish to ban the manufacture of these weapons, then at least adjust the laws to use of them. If you go hunting, the shotgun, or rifle, which you take on that trip cannot hold but 3 rounds. That’s the maximum they can hold. If the nation sees that these .223 rifles are a ‘necessity’, then so be it, but then manufacture them where they only hold 3 rounds. The citizens do not need weapons which can shoot semiautomatic, or automatic, nor more than 3 rounds. Be it a shotgun, pistol, or rifle. 3 rounds is all that’s necessary. In all my life hunting experience, if you didn’t hit the deer, turkey, dove, or other game you we’re preying on, with the first round, you didn’t get a second shot. They were gone. The 15 and 30 round magazines, or the 50-100 round drums need to be used by military and law enforcement only.
Correct, David. A hunter can have a shotgun, or rifle. Maximum amount of rounds it is allowed to load is 3. A revolver has 5 or 6, depending on the type/style you carry.
If this kids AR-15 style rifle could only load and shoot 3 rounds, not semiautomatic, a lot less people would be dead and injured.
First off, a 14 year old shouldn’t have his peter-pullers on an AR-15 to start with, or any other firearm, unless he’s on a shooting range with his dad. And in this case, when the FBI became involved with him and his dad last year, with him at the age of 13, making written threats of shooting up a school, there shouldn’t have been any way at all his dad should’ve been able to purchase that firearm for him, let alone give it to him. There shouldn’t have been any firearms left in the home!
The father has been arrested. Arraigned this morning right after his 14 year old son. The son was informed he will be tried as an adult, treated as an adult, and is facing the rest of his natural life in prison. He’s not eligible for the death penalty because of his age.
Dad was advised all his charges, and that he’s facing 180 years in prison if convicted.
It depends on how the child is taught, David. I thought all 4 of my step-children about firearms. But, I also was/am a Federal Firearms Instructor. I thought them as I was teaching a weapons/firearms class to a group of recruits.
I could leave my weapon on the dining room table and our children wouldn’t touch them. Ever. Our children were in the 1st grade, and below when they were taught about firearms. We never had any issues with this in our home. Their friends that came over were the same way. Nine of them ever touched any of my weapons.
Hell of it, Dancing Fox, is as was writing this today, apparently there was another school shooting in the northeast. I’m not understanding what the hell is going on! Today was one shit fired, one student killed. The student doing the shooting was 16, and thus was his first day of attending school! This school didn’t even have metal detectors in use.
I’m sorry, but when you have over 375 mass shootings a damn year, and over half of those are in our schools, there’s a frigging problem! Not having metal detectors in schools is nothing short of irresponsible, neglect, and just plain ignorant!
I have no idea what the hell is going in with these adults in the room. How many children have to die before something is done. And, where the F**K is the COMMON SENSE!
This is kid here in georgia, just last year, was questioned by the FBI with his father also questioned, about making written threats on a social media platform about shooting up a school. What does the dumb-ass father do, buys the son an AR-15 styled rifle and gives it to him for Christmas!!! MAKES SENSE TO ME!!! My kid wants to shoot up a school, so I’ll go buy him a rifle to do it with!
This is exactly why this guy is looking at a maximum of 180 years in prison while his 14 year old son is facing natural life, no parole.
And, of course, if assault weapons were not available for sale, he'd have had to make do with a less lethal weapon. After hearing what the kid's grandfather said about the father, I hope they can try that young man as a minor.
I understand what you are saying, but charging and prosecuting as a minor with this crime isn’t possible. He’s lucky, due to his age, that he can only get life in prison instead of the death penalty.
I’m more concerned with:
(A) how did he get this weapon to school?
(B) how did he get it in the school building, and where did he hide it so he could leave his classroom to retrieve it when he wanted?
I had 4 stepchildren. When I was with law enforcement, I took all 4 of them to the firing range on my weekends off and had them shoot everything I used in my law enforcement. That included my .223 rifle, shotgun, .44 magnum, 9mm and Colt 45 semiautomatic pistols. I instructed them the exact same way I instructed my new recruits in any firearms class I taught. They all understood the damage these weapons did. They all understood that these weapons were designed to kill, and they were not toys. They were t’s gut that if you have to point one of these weapons at someone, or something, make damn sure you are prepared to pull the trigger, and kill what you shoot.
I could take my sidearms off when I gut home, lay them in the dining room table, and they wouldn’t be touched by any of the children. They knew that it wasn’t there for them to play with.
The problem eith this situation is that this child had made threats a year ago, which caught the attention of the FBI, to shoot up a school. The FBI questioned him, and his father at that time. This is where the system failed. The weapons should’ve been confiscated at that time. The father should’ve been ‘red flagged’ to prevent him from purchasing any firearm without further investigation. And the son should’ve been ‘red flagged’ from ever being able to purchase any firearm.
Another problem this country has are these video games. How many video games are there which involve shooting? These children these days spend more time on video games than they do in school, or anything ehse. The parents allow the video games to ‘pacify’ the child. Keep the child out of the way. Instead if having chores to do, learning something constructive, the child is learning his to shoot objects, people, creatures, on a damn game. They learn how easy it is to kill that bad person.
When they go to school, or church, or out with other kids as young teenagers do, they are in the group that gets ‘bullied’, they pick up a gun and shoot the bad bullying people.
This child’s father said his son was being bullied at school. Then the father buys the son an AR-15 styled rifle. What in the hell did he think his son was going to do with it? Play tiddly-winks with the damn weapon?
David, your wife is one of the ‘super-heroes’ in my book. As an instructor, I can relate to her saying. We at the academy often said the exact same thing. In Florida we said “the orange didn’t roll far after falling from the tree.” Here in Georgia and in South Carolina, we said “that pecan didn’t fall far from the tree.” And we usually followed up with it rotted before gathered!
Believe it or not, we actually had some real doozies in our law enforcement academy. We had to weed those folks out. But, when we did, if it was for a ‘mental’ issue, we had the sense to have that person flagged by the state and federal government system for purchasing any type of firearm, or possessing a firearm.
The entire system with ownership of firearms needs to be revamped. Including the 2nd amendment. All the way from the form which has to be completed at the gun shop by the person purchasing the firearm, reporting, investigating, approving, everything. AND, there’s no need in these high powered firearms, semiautomatic, automatic, multiple round magazines, even being manufactured or sold to the public. They should only be available through purchase by the military or law enforcement agencies. Period.
The madness must be stopped. All degrees of madness and especially concerning firearms. Gun owners, ex-military, manufacturers and the like should lead the campaign for sane regulation. PLEASE!
Something has hit yo he done, Bayjh! Another shooting today at another school! Geeze!
Responsible hunters know how to secure their tools…please help this effort, hunters!
Somebody better get these politicians attention! NRA is ruining this country!
Being broke and the victim of theft from within their ranks doesn’t seem to have slowed them down much.
No, it hasn’t. They need to be abolished. The NRA of today is like the Republican Party . It has changed drastically since the 70s when I used to be a member. Now, it’s as radicalized as the Republican Party!
They don’t seem to mind that their ex-chief executive robbed them blind.
Nope. They don’t care. They’re giving all their money to Trump now anyway. Might as well be throwing it in the garbage!
Include high cost insurance for assault with a deadly weapon and wrongful death specifying the family as beneficiaries.
And vote out every politician who's offered "thoughts and prayers" and said "now is not the time for politics." Yeah, it is the right time for politics.
You have that so correct, Carol! We need to make sure we get every Democrat registered to vote to the polls. Every politician that has nothing more than “thoughts and prayers”, or comes off with “now isn’t the time for talking politics” has got to go. It will take not only this ejection this November but every election between now and 2030. This Trumpublican GOP Party has got to go. Every last one of them.
Agreed. Corrupt and stubbornly corrupt.
Vote blue all down the ballot
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Prosecuting the parents for mass murder is clearly a great step forward. Lowering the price of gun safes and better education about gun safety will all help. Mandatory police interviews for under 21 year olds owning or purchasing weapons will also help. In the US no bans on weapons will ever be electorally popular.
I understand what you are saying. But, if I may. I’m questioning a child under 21 owning a firearm. I’m questioning the reasoning behind the banning of manufacturing semiautomatic weapons.
If they don’t wish to ban the manufacture of these weapons, then at least adjust the laws to use of them. If you go hunting, the shotgun, or rifle, which you take on that trip cannot hold but 3 rounds. That’s the maximum they can hold. If the nation sees that these .223 rifles are a ‘necessity’, then so be it, but then manufacture them where they only hold 3 rounds. The citizens do not need weapons which can shoot semiautomatic, or automatic, nor more than 3 rounds. Be it a shotgun, pistol, or rifle. 3 rounds is all that’s necessary. In all my life hunting experience, if you didn’t hit the deer, turkey, dove, or other game you we’re preying on, with the first round, you didn’t get a second shot. They were gone. The 15 and 30 round magazines, or the 50-100 round drums need to be used by military and law enforcement only.
Correct, David. A hunter can have a shotgun, or rifle. Maximum amount of rounds it is allowed to load is 3. A revolver has 5 or 6, depending on the type/style you carry.
If this kids AR-15 style rifle could only load and shoot 3 rounds, not semiautomatic, a lot less people would be dead and injured.
First off, a 14 year old shouldn’t have his peter-pullers on an AR-15 to start with, or any other firearm, unless he’s on a shooting range with his dad. And in this case, when the FBI became involved with him and his dad last year, with him at the age of 13, making written threats of shooting up a school, there shouldn’t have been any way at all his dad should’ve been able to purchase that firearm for him, let alone give it to him. There shouldn’t have been any firearms left in the home!
The father has been arrested. Arraigned this morning right after his 14 year old son. The son was informed he will be tried as an adult, treated as an adult, and is facing the rest of his natural life in prison. He’s not eligible for the death penalty because of his age.
Dad was advised all his charges, and that he’s facing 180 years in prison if convicted.
It depends on how the child is taught, David. I thought all 4 of my step-children about firearms. But, I also was/am a Federal Firearms Instructor. I thought them as I was teaching a weapons/firearms class to a group of recruits.
I could leave my weapon on the dining room table and our children wouldn’t touch them. Ever. Our children were in the 1st grade, and below when they were taught about firearms. We never had any issues with this in our home. Their friends that came over were the same way. Nine of them ever touched any of my weapons.
Hell of it, Dancing Fox, is as was writing this today, apparently there was another school shooting in the northeast. I’m not understanding what the hell is going on! Today was one shit fired, one student killed. The student doing the shooting was 16, and thus was his first day of attending school! This school didn’t even have metal detectors in use.
I’m sorry, but when you have over 375 mass shootings a damn year, and over half of those are in our schools, there’s a frigging problem! Not having metal detectors in schools is nothing short of irresponsible, neglect, and just plain ignorant!
I have no idea what the hell is going in with these adults in the room. How many children have to die before something is done. And, where the F**K is the COMMON SENSE!
This is kid here in georgia, just last year, was questioned by the FBI with his father also questioned, about making written threats on a social media platform about shooting up a school. What does the dumb-ass father do, buys the son an AR-15 styled rifle and gives it to him for Christmas!!! MAKES SENSE TO ME!!! My kid wants to shoot up a school, so I’ll go buy him a rifle to do it with!
This is exactly why this guy is looking at a maximum of 180 years in prison while his 14 year old son is facing natural life, no parole.
And, of course, if assault weapons were not available for sale, he'd have had to make do with a less lethal weapon. After hearing what the kid's grandfather said about the father, I hope they can try that young man as a minor.
I understand what you are saying, but charging and prosecuting as a minor with this crime isn’t possible. He’s lucky, due to his age, that he can only get life in prison instead of the death penalty.
I’m more concerned with:
(A) how did he get this weapon to school?
(B) how did he get it in the school building, and where did he hide it so he could leave his classroom to retrieve it when he wanted?
I had 4 stepchildren. When I was with law enforcement, I took all 4 of them to the firing range on my weekends off and had them shoot everything I used in my law enforcement. That included my .223 rifle, shotgun, .44 magnum, 9mm and Colt 45 semiautomatic pistols. I instructed them the exact same way I instructed my new recruits in any firearms class I taught. They all understood the damage these weapons did. They all understood that these weapons were designed to kill, and they were not toys. They were t’s gut that if you have to point one of these weapons at someone, or something, make damn sure you are prepared to pull the trigger, and kill what you shoot.
I could take my sidearms off when I gut home, lay them in the dining room table, and they wouldn’t be touched by any of the children. They knew that it wasn’t there for them to play with.
The problem eith this situation is that this child had made threats a year ago, which caught the attention of the FBI, to shoot up a school. The FBI questioned him, and his father at that time. This is where the system failed. The weapons should’ve been confiscated at that time. The father should’ve been ‘red flagged’ to prevent him from purchasing any firearm without further investigation. And the son should’ve been ‘red flagged’ from ever being able to purchase any firearm.
Another problem this country has are these video games. How many video games are there which involve shooting? These children these days spend more time on video games than they do in school, or anything ehse. The parents allow the video games to ‘pacify’ the child. Keep the child out of the way. Instead if having chores to do, learning something constructive, the child is learning his to shoot objects, people, creatures, on a damn game. They learn how easy it is to kill that bad person.
When they go to school, or church, or out with other kids as young teenagers do, they are in the group that gets ‘bullied’, they pick up a gun and shoot the bad bullying people.
This child’s father said his son was being bullied at school. Then the father buys the son an AR-15 styled rifle. What in the hell did he think his son was going to do with it? Play tiddly-winks with the damn weapon?
David, your wife is one of the ‘super-heroes’ in my book. As an instructor, I can relate to her saying. We at the academy often said the exact same thing. In Florida we said “the orange didn’t roll far after falling from the tree.” Here in Georgia and in South Carolina, we said “that pecan didn’t fall far from the tree.” And we usually followed up with it rotted before gathered!
Believe it or not, we actually had some real doozies in our law enforcement academy. We had to weed those folks out. But, when we did, if it was for a ‘mental’ issue, we had the sense to have that person flagged by the state and federal government system for purchasing any type of firearm, or possessing a firearm.
The entire system with ownership of firearms needs to be revamped. Including the 2nd amendment. All the way from the form which has to be completed at the gun shop by the person purchasing the firearm, reporting, investigating, approving, everything. AND, there’s no need in these high powered firearms, semiautomatic, automatic, multiple round magazines, even being manufactured or sold to the public. They should only be available through purchase by the military or law enforcement agencies. Period.